Talk:Indo-Pakistani wars and conflicts
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Talk:List of wars involving Pakistan
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in short India will win against Pakistan as they have better military and economy. India also has more and better ties as they have good ties with Russia, USA and Israel who will support them while Pakistan only have China and Bangladesh on their side. Even though China could do some good damage their economy has been down due to the 245% tariffs USA put on them.
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 29 March 2025
Please add Template:India topics, Template:Afghanistan topics, and Template:Pakistan topics to the end of the page:
Agowa (talk) 18:22, 29 March 2025 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 30 April 2025
Please replace the current mention of the "2025 India–Pakistan standoff" with the following:
2025 India–Pakistan standoff: The crisis began on 22 April 2025, following a deadly militant attack in the Baisaran Valley near Pahalgam in Jammu and Kashmir. The attack resulted in the deaths of 26 civilians, including 25 Indian tourists and one local resident, with over 20 others injured. The Resistance Front (TRF), a group suspected of links to the Pakistan-based Lashkar-e-Taiba—designated a terrorist organization by the United Nations—initially claimed responsibility but later retracted the statement.[1]
In the aftermath, India accused Pakistan of harboring groups responsible for cross-border militancy and announced a series of measures including the expulsion of Pakistani diplomats, suspension of visas, closure of border crossings, and a temporary withdrawal from the Indus Waters Treaty.[2] Pakistan denied any involvement and described India’s allegations as politically motivated. In response, Pakistan introduced reciprocal measures, including restrictions on trade, closure of its airspace and land borders, and suspension of the Shimla Agreement.[3]
Both governments issued travel advisories warning their citizens against travel to each other’s territories. India’s Cabinet Committee on Security urged Indian nationals in Pakistan to return, while Pakistan’s foreign ministry issued similar guidance for its citizens in India.[4]
Reason for change: The current version of the article includes language and framing that could be perceived as unbalanced, assigning blame to one side. The revised version presents events using neutral terminology, reflects both nations' perspectives and actions equally, and includes citations from reputable international news sources. This ensures compliance with Wikipedia’s WP:NPOV (neutral point of view) and WP:RS (reliable sources) policies.
Thank you. Doanld12312 (talk) 20:23, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
inovlement of other states
if i say that in this the main involvement of other so what you said about it 2402:E000:546:1D11:DAD:E981:4A68:E95B (talk) 14:00, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
This War Will Not Be Fought By Both States
One of the major resson is the investing of the core states in the both states either pakistan or india. Recently pakistan goverment invite to invester to invest in pakistan and pakistan never goes to war if the unfortunatly the india attack the pakistan then pakistan immidiatly response the india of its attack. 2402:E000:546:1D11:DAD:E981:4A68:E95B (talk) 14:08, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 7 May 2025
Typo: Skirmishes, incidents and standoffs > 2025 India–Pakistan standoff:
from: "... India's actions by with trade restrictions, ..." to: "... India's actions with trade restrictions, ..." Thatusername96 (talk) 02:28, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
Already done HudecEmil (talk) 15:58, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 7 May 2025 (2)
Change 'and withdrawal from the Indus Waters Treaty' to withdrew from the Indus Waters Treaty, to make it grammatically correct. Gorkhor (talk) 15:50, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
Done HudecEmil (talk) 15:56, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 8 May 2025
In Indo-Pakistani wars and conflicts § Skirmishes, incidents and standoffs
− | *'''[[2025 India–Pakistan standoff]]''': The crisis began on 23 April 2025, as an Islamic terrorist attack took place in the [[Baisaran Valley]] of [[Jammu and Kashmir (union territory)|Jammu and Kashmir]]. In the attack 25 Hindu tourists, one Christian tourist and one local Muslim were killed along with over 20 others injured. [[The Resistance Front]] (TRF), a splinter group linked to [[Lashkar-e-Taiba]]—a Pakistan-based organization designated as a [[List of designated terrorist groups|terrorist group]] by the [[United Nations|UN]]—initially claimed responsibility for the attack. In response, India accused Pakistan of backing cross-border terrorism. India then expelled Pakistani diplomats and called back its diplomats, suspended visas, closed borders, and withdrew from the [[Indus Waters Treaty]]. Pakistan denied the allegations and responded with trade restrictions, closure of airspace and border crossings, and suspension of the [[Simla Agreement]]. India's [[Cabinet Committee on Security]] (CCS) also strongly urged Indian citizens to avoid traveling to Pakistan, and called on those currently in the country to return at the earliest opportunity | + | *'''[[2025 India–Pakistan standoff]]''': The crisis began on 23 April 2025, as an Islamic terrorist attack took place in the [[Baisaran Valley]] of [[Jammu and Kashmir (union territory)|Jammu and Kashmir]]. In the attack 25 Hindu tourists, one Christian tourist and one local Muslim were killed along with over 20 others injured. [[The Resistance Front]] (TRF), a splinter group linked to [[Lashkar-e-Taiba]]—a Pakistan-based organization designated as a [[List of designated terrorist groups|terrorist group]] by the [[United Nations|UN]]—initially claimed responsibility for the attack. In response, India accused Pakistan of backing cross-border terrorism. India then expelled Pakistani diplomats and called back its diplomats, suspended visas, closed borders, and withdrew from the [[Indus Waters Treaty]]. Pakistan denied the allegations and responded with trade restrictions, closure of airspace and border crossings, and suspension of the [[Simla Agreement]]. India's [[Cabinet Committee on Security]] (CCS) also strongly urged Indian citizens to avoid traveling to Pakistan, and called on those currently in the country to return at the earliest opportunity. On the night of 6/7 May, India launched [[Operation Sindoor]], a series of missile strikes on what they claimed was "terrorist infrastructure". In response, Pakistan began heavily [[mortar]] firing, targeting the town of [[Poonch]]. The following day, Pakistan reported drone intrusions into its airspace, saying it shot down 12. Later, Pakistan attempted a drone and missile strike on India, targeting cities such as [[Amritsar]], which Indian authorities claim they successfully defended against. Responding to this, India launched [[SEAD/DEAD]] operations on air defence systems in [[Lahore]]. |
Please copy from source, as references cannot be seen in Template:Textdiff.
Coleisforeditor (talk) 19:41, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Coleisforeditor: I'm afraid that adding this might make the section too wordy whereas the section's goal is to simplify what is going on currently. I might be wrong in this.... if you disagree with what I said, please say so. Hacked (Talk|Contribs) 16:51, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- At 4,218 characters my proposal is still about 10,000 characters shorter than the 2019 border skirmishes entry (14,550 characters), which itself is (arguably) a comparatively much less notable conflict. (counting by wikitext, which includes references and other such examples. for comparison purposes this still works)
- However, the topic is now covered by Indo-Pakistani wars and conflicts § India Pakistan conflict (2025), which is, however, outdated (the ceasefire is over, with India and Pakistan accusing eachother of violating it, India now giving "an appropriate response" and explosions heard in Indian Kashmir - source) Coleisforeditor (talk) 20:11, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 9 May 2025
Update last bullet in Skirmishes, incidents and standoffs. See Recent Developments.
Also, add link for 2025 Pahalgam attack in the text for context when the terrorist attack is mentioned. 14.139.128.52 (talk) 03:40, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
- Update and add the entire topic of 2025 India–Pakistan strikes in brief. 14.139.128.52 (talk) 03:46, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 10 May 2025
The map of India is incorrect . 2409:40C2:601D:63AC:C4A4:FDFF:FE6B:33D2 (talk) 04:22, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
Not done: It's unclear what kind of edit the User is requesting. Please be more specific and informative. Don't forget to include a citation. Hacked (Talk|Contribs) 04:34, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 10 May 2025 (2)
Template:Edit extended-pr tootected Change "India then expelled Pakistani diplomats and called back its diplomats, suspended visas, closed borders, and withdrew from the Indus Waters Treaty." to "India then expelled Pakistani diplomats and called back its diplomats, suspended visas, closed borders, and put the Indus Waters Treaty in abeyance"
[1] Raijai883 (talk) 16:44, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- Pleasse use WP:ERW to properly display the edit request template and it notifies more editors. Hacked (Talk|Contribs) 16:45, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
References
- ^ Vishwanath, Apurva (26 Apr 2025). "Indus Waters Treaty, Simla Agreement 'in abeyance': What this means". Indian Express. Retrieved 10 May 2025.
I feel like the current situation should be in skirmishes as opposed to conflicts
No ground conflict 2600:1008:A131:9966:682B:5536:F859:C499 (talk) 20:52, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
India Pakistan Standoff 2025
In May 2025, following a sharp escalation in hostilities, India and Pakistan agreed to a full and immediate ceasefire after U.S.-mediated talks. Then-President Donald Trump announced the breakthrough on social media, commending both nations for choosing diplomacy over further conflict.
The immediate trigger for the crisis was a terrorist attack on April 22, 2025, in the Baisaran Valley near Pahalgam, Jammu and Kashmir. The assault claimed the lives of 26 civilians, including Indian tourists. India attributed the attack to Pakistan-based militant groups, prompting swift retaliatory airstrikes targeting alleged terrorist infrastructure within Pakistan. Islamabad denied involvement and condemned the Indian military response, leading to heightened tensions along the Line of Control (LoC).
In the wake of India's airstrikes, Pakistan launched a retaliatory military operation dubbed Operation Bunyan ul Marsoos, intended to demonstrate Pakistan’s military capabilities and deter further Indian action. The operation, however, was widely reported to have failed in achieving its declared objectives. No Indian military or strategic targets were successfully hit, and the operation was criticized domestically and internationally as symbolic and ineffective.[3] Analysts noted that despite significant mobilization, Pakistan's precision capabilities and operational coordination fell short, contributing to a swift erosion of credibility in the operation’s planning and execution.
Amid the rising violence and growing international concern, Pakistan sought diplomatic intervention from the United States to de-escalate the crisis. President Trump urged restraint and offered to mediate. The resulting negotiations led to the announcement of a ceasefire, with both nations agreeing to halt military operations and engage in structured talks to address core issues.
However, within just three hours of the ceasefire announcement, Pakistan reportedly violated its commitments with unprovoked firing across the LoC, raising serious doubts about the agreement’s viability.
India emphasized that its commitment to the ceasefire was conditional on Pakistan taking verifiable action to curb cross-border terrorism. Indian officials warned that any future terrorist incidents originating from Pakistani territory would be treated as acts of war, reaffirming India’s zero-tolerance stance toward terrorism.
The 2025 ceasefire agreement builds on earlier efforts to stabilize India–Pakistan relations, such as the 2021 understanding to observe a strict ceasefire along the LoC. However, the long-term effectiveness of these agreements remains uncertain due to the complex geopolitical dynamics and deep-seated mistrust between the two nuclear-armed neighbors.
As of this writing, the Indus Waters Treaty—long a cornerstone of bilateral engagement on water sharing—remains in abeyance, with no formal dialogue resumed under its framework since the April attack. HimanshuSaini7 (talk) 04:00, 11 May 2025 (UTC)