Talk:Mountain lions in the Santa Monica Mountains
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The result was: promoted by RoySmith talk 12:45, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- ... that mountain lions in the Santa Monica Mountains are one of only two instances of large wild cats living in a megacity, the other being leopards in Mumbai, India?
Title - Lions in the Santa Monica Mountains "Los Angeles is one of only two megacities in the world (the other is Mumbai) that have big cats living within the city limits."
https://sentinelcolorado.com/uncategorized/big-cats-in-urban-jungle-la-mountain-lions-mumbai-leopards/ Title - Big cats in urban jungle: LA mountain lions, Mumbai leopards
"Los Angeles and Mumbai, India are the world’s only megacities of 10 million-plus where large felines breed, hunt and maintain territory within urban boundaries."- Reviewed:
Gb321 (talk) 04:25, 18 April 2025 (UTC).
Article is in good shape, well sourced, and is otherwise good to go, but I want to quickly ask: why is Sentinel Colorado being used to back up this claim? It's neither near LA or Mumbai, nor is it a wholly reliable source, appearing to be a local-circulation newspaper. Can you find a better source for this claim? Departure– (talk) 19:44, 24 April 2025 (UTC)
- Re: Sentinel Colorado, I tried to use a secondary source and that was the best I could find. The real best source is the National Park Service (https://www.nps.gov/samo/learn/nature/pumapage.htm), but when creating the page some people commented that NPS was a primary source, not a secondary one. I personally would rather use NPS as the source, although while the NPS source mentions big cats in Mumbai, it doesn't specify that they are leopards. EDIT: I found a better ref: https://apnews.com/article/oddities-science-travel-c99fa72a760950adf0d1e168a1951219#:~:text=Big%20Cats%20Hero&text=Los%20Angeles%20and%20Mumbai%2C%20India,learn%20to%20live%20with%20them.%E2%80%9D. It's not currently cited in the article but I'll add it. EDIT2: The Associated Press article is literally the exact same article as the Sentinel Colorado one. I guess I'll replace the Sentinel Colorado ref with the AP one (Gb321 (talk) 15:57, 25 April 2025 (UTC))
- @Gb321: From there, we are good to go, but I just wanted to ask if you wanted to revise the hook a little. The underlying fact is great but the hook is a bit less-than-clear and could be improved.
- Re: Sentinel Colorado, I tried to use a secondary source and that was the best I could find. The real best source is the National Park Service (https://www.nps.gov/samo/learn/nature/pumapage.htm), but when creating the page some people commented that NPS was a primary source, not a secondary one. I personally would rather use NPS as the source, although while the NPS source mentions big cats in Mumbai, it doesn't specify that they are leopards. EDIT: I found a better ref: https://apnews.com/article/oddities-science-travel-c99fa72a760950adf0d1e168a1951219#:~:text=Big%20Cats%20Hero&text=Los%20Angeles%20and%20Mumbai%2C%20India,learn%20to%20live%20with%20them.%E2%80%9D. It's not currently cited in the article but I'll add it. EDIT2: The Associated Press article is literally the exact same article as the Sentinel Colorado one. I guess I'll replace the Sentinel Colorado ref with the AP one (Gb321 (talk) 15:57, 25 April 2025 (UTC))
... that mountain lions in the Santa Monica Mountains of Los Angeles are one of only two examples of wild big cats living in a megacity?
Let me know what you think of this (in my eyes) improved hook. Departure– (talk) 13:51, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
- the revised hook sounds good to me! (Gb321 (talk) 15:57, 25 April 2025 (UTC))
- @Gb321: Alright then, from there we're
good to go on the ALT I proposed, sourced to AP. The article is new enough (extending the deadline some hours), sourced well enough, no copyvio, and the hook is verified and interesting. Good work! Also, please sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~) when commenting; on DYK templates, this will not be done automatically. Cheers! Departure– (talk) 15:54, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
- Oh, one more thing; we need to add "wild" before "big cats" so that it explicitly refers to wild populations; are you alright with that? Departure– (talk) 15:55, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
- yes, I put wild originally to explicitly differentiate it from big cats living in zoos. It's implied without it but I think it is better with it (Gb321 (talk) 15:57, 25 April 2025 (UTC))
- Oh, one more thing; we need to add "wild" before "big cats" so that it explicitly refers to wild populations; are you alright with that? Departure– (talk) 15:55, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Gb321: Alright then, from there we're