Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Branny Schepanovich
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. Reliable sources for this individual have been found. However, they do need to be added to the article. Firsfron of Ronchester 04:16, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Yet another unelected Canadian political candidate, although thankfully this one's a historical footnote rather than a current one. There still isn't, however, any properly sourced indication of notability here; it just reads like the prose version of a resumé and offers no real reason why he should be in an encyclopedia. Delete. Bearcat (talk) 23:08, 21 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep It seems to me that the claim to notability is as a political party leader rather than as a candidate. As he is deceased, there is no concern about promoting his political career, nor any WP:BLP concerns. I see decades of coverage in newspapers, and even some discussion in books. What seems like a resume ceases to be so when the person dies, as the function of a resume is to advance a career. The encyclopedic value is to increase the depth of coverage of the Liberal Party of Canada by telling the story of the life of one of its historic leaders. Cullen328 (talk) 23:37, 21 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Leader of what party? He was never a leader of the Liberal party (either provincial or federal), and other posts within political organizations do not confer inherent notability. Ravendrop 23:41, 21 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- There's no claim in the article that he was ever a political party leader. Bearcat (talk) 23:47, 21 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- I used the term "leader" in the generic sense, rather than the formal sense of "Party Leader". I see significant ongoing coverage of this person from the pre-Internet era. In 1978, he was called the party's provincial campaign committee chair and the Liberals ever optimistic Alberta campaign chairman. In 1979, he was called an "Alberta party organizer". In 1980, he was called Alberta Liberal federal campaign chairman. In 1983, he was called a prominent Alberta Liberal. In 1984, he was described as a Trudeau loyalist. He is discussed in a 1983 book called Grits: an intimate portrait of the Liberal Party. He also received lots of coverage in reliable sources in the 1960s as a student leader, for example in a book called A history of the University of Alberta, 1908-1969, and another book called The sixties revolution & the fall of Social Credit. I also saw significant coverage of his work as an attorney representing accused war criminal Jakov Bakich. Cullen328 (talk) 00:35, 22 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- I'd be quite happy to withdraw this nomination if real sources actually found their way into the article. But it's not good enough to throw a pile of sources at the AFD discussion if the article itself stays unreferenced. Bearcat (talk) 09:30, 22 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- I used the term "leader" in the generic sense, rather than the formal sense of "Party Leader". I see significant ongoing coverage of this person from the pre-Internet era. In 1978, he was called the party's provincial campaign committee chair and the Liberals ever optimistic Alberta campaign chairman. In 1979, he was called an "Alberta party organizer". In 1980, he was called Alberta Liberal federal campaign chairman. In 1983, he was called a prominent Alberta Liberal. In 1984, he was described as a Trudeau loyalist. He is discussed in a 1983 book called Grits: an intimate portrait of the Liberal Party. He also received lots of coverage in reliable sources in the 1960s as a student leader, for example in a book called A history of the University of Alberta, 1908-1969, and another book called The sixties revolution & the fall of Social Credit. I also saw significant coverage of his work as an attorney representing accused war criminal Jakov Bakich. Cullen328 (talk) 00:35, 22 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep It doesn't say much, but I needed this information tonight, and this article provided it. 70.74.188.103 (talk) 04:49, 22 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- You just happened to "need" this information, less than 24 hours after it was nominated for deletion in the first place? How convenient. Bearcat (talk) 09:30, 22 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Weak Delete with an option to userfy if desired. Right now, this article lacks sourcing for verifiability, and a quick stroll through Gnews and the like suggests that WP:BIO is not met. Most surprising was that the Gnews search didn't turn up any obituaries - usually borderline notables pass the significant coverage requirement at that point. RayTalk 19:50, 29 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete While entry reads well, as RayAYang notes above, could not find an obit in Gsearch, and could not find any references at all. If had found would have added them. The article as is currently has no sources so cannot confirm facts. Validays (talk) 10:47, 30 April 2011(UTC)
- Keep. Nomination was for being of questionable notability. User:Cullen328 linked to numerous books and newspaper articles that show notability and the nominator herself/himself has admitted that s/he is willing to withdraw the nomination if the information cited finds its way into the article. Perhaps someone could be bold and cite it. Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:50, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Baseball Watcher 22:21, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sumsum2010·T·C 04:10, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply] - The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.