The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was: delete. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 04:16, 20 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Portal:Dallas–Fort Worth metroplex (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

7-year-abandoned, over-complex multi-sub-page style portal on the Dallas–Fort Worth metroplex, In Texas.

Created[1] in November 2006‎ by Drumguy8800 (talk · contribs), whose last edit was in 2011.

Converted[2] on 2 February 2019‎ to an automated navbox-based format by Emoteplump (talk · contribs). who has been indef-blocked since the next day as a sockpuppet. This automate version drew it s "selected articles" list solely from the navbox {{Dallas–Fort Worth metroplex}}, of which it was therefore list a bloated and redundant fork. (For a full explanation of why this type of portal is redundant, see the two mass deletions of similar portals: one, and two, where there was overwhelming consensus of a very high turnout to delete a total of 2,555 such portals).

Reverted[3] to non-automated format on 12 May 2019‎ by BHG.

However, the restored version is mostly a sea of redlinks. (I checked other versions; they are no better).

The reason is visible at Special:PrefixIndex/Portal:Dallas–Fort Worth metroplex: the portal has was re-designed in about 2012 around a montly structure. The idea was evidently to manually create a new sub-page each month for each of several types of article: Selected article, Selected biography, quotes, DYK, Music, Arts & Culture. Selected picture.

That's 6 sets of pages which would need a new addition each month. 72 new pages needed each year. A big job, and unsurprisingly a job that was rapidly abandoned: the last of these monthly sub-pages are dated August 2012.

The Dallas–Fort Worth metroplex has a population of ~7.5 million people, and it is well-documented on en.Wikipedia. So in theory it should meet the WP:POG guides that portals should be about "broad subject areas, which are likely to attract large numbers of interested readers and portal maintainers". But in practice, it hasn't had maintainers, and has rotted.

It is theoretically possible to make this portal work again by converting the monthly items to undated, sequentially-numbered pages, and changing all the portal code accordingly. But in practice that would be a lot of work, and it would still leave a portal based on skimpy sets of 7-year-old content-forked sub-pages. If anyone wants to build a portal on this topic which genuinely meets the WP:PORTAL principle that "Portals serve as enhanced 'Main Pages' for specific broad subjects", they would do much better to start afresh with one of the newer, low-maintenance portal formats, e.g. Portal:Harz Mountains or the v difft Portal:Geophysics. And unless some major rebuild happens, it's unfair on readers to lure them to this ancient ruin of a portal.

So I propose that this portal and its sub-pages be deleted per WP:TNT, without prejudice to recreating a curated portal in accordance with whatever criteria the community may have agreed at that time. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 00:12, 13 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete - Once again, the choice is between this restored abandoned portal or an automated golem of a portal, or deletion. Deletion has the advantage that it doesn't fool anyone into thinking that there is a portal. Robert McClenon (talk) 01:13, 13 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete - Abandoned portal, 41 subpages, created 2006-11-16 06:27:09 by User:Drumguy8800. Was alive circa 2012. In 2018, TTH was totally right when nuking this expired thing. Replacing by the fork of a navbox was not better. Portal:Dallas–Fort Worth metroplex. Pldx1 (talk) 13:59, 13 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete: fails WP:POG scope and activity requirements. SITH (talk) 11:16, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.