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Cycling
- Élder Herrera (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable cyclist. I was unable to find any sources about him. WhoIsCentreLeft (talk) 15:43, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople and Spain. WhoIsCentreLeft (talk) 15:43, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Cycling and Colombia. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 16:08, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- Unable to find anything on him? Where'd you look? A quick search brings up things like this, this, and this. They're not necessarily SIGCOV, but I feel like the WP:BEFORE on these noms are poor. BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:49, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- Comment WhoIsCentreLeft:
I was unable to find any sources about him.
Really? No source at all? I would suggest putting some additional effort on WP:BEFORE before nominating. There are many sources about him on a cursory search on Google News: [1][2][3]. That's just a few where the headline is about him. There's also plenty of others where the body of the articles cover him too. MarioGom (talk) 16:50, 10 May 2025 (UTC) - Keep – Per MarioGom sources. Svartner (talk) 19:00, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- Keep National champion, meets WP:NCYC, plus enough coverage with above sources. Looks like yet another case of little to no WP:BEFORE being done. Seacactus 13 (talk) 15:27, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
- Big Four (cycling) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Some sources will speak of a big 6, others of a big 3: this is arbitrary and very fleeting. Unthinkable to many to suggest that Matthieu van der Poel is not part of the biggest n riders at the moment. A few years ago there was an entirely different top few riders, in 5 years these guys won't be winning any more. Nothing of lasting relevance: this is a no more than a questionable snapshot of standings in the sport right now. Kevin McE (talk) 22:22, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- I understand there are probably one-off cases of sources using "Big N" to discuss random groups of riders, but considering there are multiple independent sources (e.g. [4] [5]) that define the term (not just mentioning it in passing), there are articles that discuss inclusion in the group (Is Remco Evenepoel Part of Pro Cycling’s ‘Big Four’?), and sources that refer to coverage of the group ([6] references "the much-talked about 'Big Four'"), I think this rises beyond an "arbitrary" grouping.
- There has been usage of the term for this specific group of riders for nearly a year and a half (since December 2023), and frequent usage by many different organizations since the 2024 Tour de France, which I feel is more than "very fleeting". It would be a different conversation if I had created this article immediately after the 2024 Tour, but considering usage has continued and frequently appears in articles and previews for 2025 events (for example, these two previews for the 2025 Giro d'Italia starting this weekend both mention the Big Four: [7] [8]).
- Mathieu van der Poel is not a GC contender for stage races, which is likely why he is not included in this grouping, which the article (and quoted sources) make clear is about success in stage races and Grand Tours, not a general group of "top riders" Verylongandmemorable (talk) 22:52, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- Already commented but just wanted to add: I think the argument that "in 5 years these guys won't be winning any more" conflicts with WP:CRYSTALBALL. Whether or not these riders are successful in the future, the term is widely used currently and has been defined since 2023. Assuming that it will be forgotten is not a prediction we are able to confidently make (and IMO is a bold prediction considering 3 of the 4 riders are 28 years old or younger) Verylongandmemorable (talk) 23:27, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- Multiple reliable sources are included in the article, specifically referring to the term Big Four.[9][10][11][12][13][14][15] Please provide sources to support the claims of Big 6, Big 3, et cetera. Flibirigit (talk) 22:54, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Negousse Mengistou (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Subject does not appear to meet the WP:SPORTSCRIT due to a lack of WP:SIGCOV. The article currently only has references to databases, and all I could find in secondary sources was a namedrop at [[16]]. Let'srun (talk) 00:41, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Comment; summoning @Habst, as this is their area of expertise. I can't immediately find any english coverage of this person, but then again the sources are most likely to be smaller Ethiopian newspapers from the 50s and 60s written in amharic. I will keep looking for sources. AnonymousScholar49 (talk) 03:32, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
- We don't know that "smaller Ethiopian newspapers" covered cyclists. Not all sports get much coverage in every country at every time. Anyway, Wikipedia's current rules state that the coverage must be uncovered before creating articles, not after. Geschichte (talk) 14:49, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
- @AnonymousScholar49, I appreciate being called an expert, but I am just another editor like you. The subject's Amharic name is ንጉሴ መንግስቱ, and it is used in a few articles ([17] [18] (use webarchive)), but mostly mentions that I can find. He might be covered in Jack Trickey's interview considering he was one of two cyclists to run into him, but we can't say that for sure as it's paywalled.
- And for the record, not to be semantic but SPORTCRIT only mandates that SIGCOV must exist in articles, not from their inception; that rule was not in place at the time this article was created in 2014. --Habst (talk) 13:07, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 14:10, 8 May 2025 (UTC)