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Prianto

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Fails WP:NCORP, WP:ORGIND, WP:CORPDEPTH, WP:SIRS. No indication of significance. scope_creep^Talk 09:15, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Teresa Lourenco

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Obviously self-published self-biographical promotional. This seriously detracts from the quality of Wikipedia. JustMakeTheAccount (talk) 00:35, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Per nom the article seems to be hyping her up rather then being informative the sources arent very good either Scooby453w (talk) 11:33, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Per nom. No RS. Doesn't meet WP:GNG. -- — Itzcuauhtli11 (talk) 14:54, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Franziska Zimmerer

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No indication of signifance. BLP with what looks like zero WP:SECONDARY sources. Seems to be a man doing his job. scope_creep^Talk 09:43, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - I'm not finding anything of substance on this person, BTW, she's a woman not a man according to the article. I agree it's an article on a run of the mill journalist/political scientist just doing her job. Fails WP:JOURNALIST WP:NSCIENTIST and WP:GNG. Netherzone (talk) 14:12, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Pleuger

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Non-notable company. Covered mostly by WP:TRADES. The best article about the company is this but it is more about Alster fountain than the company. WP:SPAs editing history is also problematic. Overall, clearly fails WP:NCORP. Gheus (talk) 09:33, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per the references. --Trimax503 (talk) 09:40, 3 May 2025 (UTC) WP:SOCKSTRIKE. Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 12:10, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
See WP:ATA. It would be better if you point out the references (that meet WP:CORPDEPTH standard) and why you are just interested in AfDs as a newbie? Gheus (talk) 09:49, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Freiburg-Madison-Society

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Non-notable organisation. No reliable sources. Promotional. See WP:NOT. Fails WP:NORG. Cabrils (talk) 07:12, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Can this be merged into one if the cities' article under "Twin cities" or the like? Bearian (talk) 21:56, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Does every twinning agreement between every pair of cities in the world need a separate article? It should surely be enough to mention the twins in the articles on the cities concerned. Athel cb (talk) 13:06, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ende Gelände 2020

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Not special enough to have a separate article A1Cafel (talk) 10:53, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Bernd Sikora

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Contested prod without improvement. Currently sourcing does not show they pass WP:GNG, and searches did not turn up with enough in-depth sourcing from independent, reliable sources to show they meet GNG. And they do not appear to meet WP:NSCHOLAR either. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 14:47, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Leaning Keep - has a German-speaker done WP:BEFORE? Most/all sources will be in German. Johnbod (talk) 19:35, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Looking at the history of this article, it appears to be a translation of the poorly sourced German article https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernd_Sikora. No sources there to help sustain the biographical information and claims made in the article. --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 01:31, 27 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I have revisited this article several times. I've made some edits, but am unable to find RS to show notability. Sikora designed an observation tower and a footbridge. The sourcing for this information is miriquidimedia.de (Miriquidi Media), which looks to be a site about Sikora that promotes his books, project and tours. I don't think it can be considered an independent source. The citation for the biographical information is a dead link. The listing for books have citations that don't link anywhere, just hyperlink for ISBN and hyperlink to the Wikipedia pages of the German region the book covers. I have not found anything on the internet to show notability. The fact that there might be something somewhere in German needs to survive WP:BURDEN --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 00:36, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Hubertus Prinz von Sachsen-Coburg und Gotha

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Article is primarily about his parents and grandfather and very little about Hubertus himself beyond genealogical information. I see no reason for notability independent of his ancestry. WP:NOTINHERITED WP:NOTGENEOLOGY D1551D3N7 (talk) 10:14, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom.

AnonymousScholar49 (talk) 13:16, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merge and redirect to Ernst Leopold Prinz von Sachsen-Coburg und Gotha (his father). The contents of this entire article can be transferred to and summed up in the "Marriage and family" section of the other article I mentioned. Vida0007 (talk) 18:42, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merge and redirect per User:Vida0007. Kakurokuna (talk) 20:56, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep.The present prospective petitioner to be restored as Duke of Albany should have his own article and Wikipedia's genealogical content is not a drawback in any sense and there is no reason to thin it just because it's not marked for extension.72.80.84.163 (talk) 16:05, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This is a form WP:CRYSTALBALL argument you are making. The Duke of Albany title was ended in the Titles Deprivation Act 1917 a whole 44 years before Hubertus was born. You seem to think there's some inherit notability in being "in line" for a title that fundamentally no longer exists and your basis is that it could potentially be restored but there's no sources to support that. D1551D3N7 (talk) 17:36, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The Royal Family article in Debrett's Peerage includes the deprived titles as "suspended" and tracks the heirs and we should do likewise...the law makes provision for heirs to petition to be restored. 72.80.84.163 (talk) 04:12, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Beeing a potential petitoner does not bring relevance. Beeing a petitoner would change that, but this is WP:CRYSTALBALL. Keeping track of who reliabable sources think could be a potential petioner is already covered in the article Duke of Albany, which is the appropriate place. --Theoreticalmawi (talk) 14:05, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The terms of the Act make clear who the one person at any time entitled to petition is but the deletion of this article might be seen as an excuse to omit mention of it from the Duke of Albany article.72.80.84.163 (talk) 15:59, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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2017 Hurghada attack

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Fails WP:NEVENT and WP:NOTNEWS. Coverage is in the immediate days after the attack, no WP:LASTING or WP:SUSTAINED that establish WP:GNG. Open to an appropriate merge target. Longhornsg (talk) 20:50, 24 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Terrorism in Egypt#Red Sea resort attacks (2016–17), where it is mentioned. PARAKANYAA (talk) 00:32, 25 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Terrorism in Egypt#Red Sea resort attacks (2016–17) per PARAKANYAA. I can't find any sustained coverage to indicate that this passes WP:NEVENT either. The suggested redirect seems appropriate. MCE89 (talk) 11:31, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Richard Laugs

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This article fails notabillity guidelines for musicians, and also violates WP:NOTMEMORIAL. It does not cite any sources and is very short. AnonymousScholar49 (talk) 14:48, 24 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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support agree with reasoning Czarking0 (talk) 17:07, 24 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I find it hard to believe he's not notable... Indexed in SIX national libraries, the VIAF. Gnewspapers brings up many hits, Gbooks has hits on his name from the 1930s to the present. The VIAF link has two biographical links in German. Oaktree b (talk) 23:07, 24 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Album review here [1] Oaktree b (talk) 23:28, 24 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment the German wikipedia article has some book references that look reliable here, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 22:02, 25 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I think it is very likely that he is notable, but it is not going to be easy to find reviews of his concert performances or recordings (although Oaktree b has already found one on jstor). Some do come up on a Google Books search, eg Fanfare (14/1-2:263) and The Gramophone (52/613-618:536), but they have only snippet views, so can't be used as sources. Finding hard copies from that era would probably need access to a very large library. Apart from reviews, Discogs shows multiple albums released by the Musical Heritage Society and by a German label called Da Camera Magna. I realise that Discogs is not reliable, but it gives album names and label numbers which can be searched for elsewhere - and does suggest that he meets WP:MUSICBIO#5. I have added some sources to the article, and removed the unsourced tag. I'll see what else I can find. RebeccaGreen (talk) 10:13, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: Reviewing comments and additional links presented here suggests that nom. criteria for deletion is not met. Can be tagged for additional sources and enhanced by translating from the German article. Komodo (talk) 06:45, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Easy Languages (YouTube)

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This YouTube channel does not meet the inclusion criteria. After reviewing the cited sources, it is clear that there is a lack of significant, independent, and reliable coverage necessary to establish notability. The first two sources are interviews with the subject, which are inherently not independent and cannot be used to demonstrate notability. The third source, published by the University of Münster (uni-muenster), also fails the independence test, as the host of the YouTube channel appears to be an alumna of the same university. The fifth source cited in the article does not mention the YouTube channel at all. Junbeesh (talk) 08:16, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. I fixed a broken link which was the reason why the fifth source was being claimed as irrelevant. In addition, the idea that writing about an alumna is a conflict of interest seems spurious to me. This seems like the same idea as arguing that academic journals are default biased by focusing on a specific topic; the topic here is just "alumni/ae of the University of Münster" instead of something like "education". Mcavoybickford (talk) 12:40, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Appreciate you fixing the broken link. That said, the source is just a directory/listicle that briefly mentions Easy German among other channels. It is only a few lines with no real depth and would not count as significant coverage by Wikipedia standards for establishing the subject's notability.

And yes, the uni-muenster article does not seem to be independent. It is full of quotes from the subject and there's even a disclaimer at the top stating This text is taken from the alumni|sponsor magazine of the university newspaper 'wissen|leben,' summer semester 2022 issue. That magazine features stories submitted by their own alumni. Anyone who attended the university can send in their story to be featured.

Wikipedia expects significant coverage to be both substantial and independent of the subject, which isn't the case here. Junbeesh (talk) 07:13, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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weak keep: A thesis [2] and some discussion in a journal [3], with the other sources in the article we should be able to build a basic/stub article. Oaktree b (talk) 21:27, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Catalan-language paper here [4]. Oaktree b (talk) 21:28, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
These alone do not establish notability, though they may contribute toward it. The primary requirement is that the subject must have received sufficient, significant coverage in multiple secondary sources that are both reliable and independent of the subject. Junbeesh (talk) 07:19, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep I think the journal article and Catalan paper are two significant independent reliable sources, as is The Local [5]. With the other borderline sources I think there's just about enough to push this into notability. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 16:26, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Christian Gessner

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Non-notable swimmer. No sources beyond profiles from databases. WhoIsCentreLeft (talk) 19:01, 18 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. No evidence of WP:BEFORE. A search brings up SIGCOV such as this, paywalled stories that are almost certainly SIGCOV such as this, and it is very, very likely that a world championship swimming medalist in the offline era will have further coverage in German newspaper archives. BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:10, 18 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Weak keep - The links posted above basically link to the same story with the same title ("Schwimmer Christian Geßner war für ein paar Stunden Republik-Flüchtling", or in machine translation "Swimmer Christian Geßner [Gessner] was a refugee from the Republic for a few hours") which is about their missing a flight and being thought to have defected from the East Germany. The piece is one of those narrative-with-comments-from-the-subject stories where the author clear spoke to the journalist writing the story. If that were all there was I'd lean weak-delete, but I see there's also a Munziger bio that appears to be referencing a news article. The Spiegel piece referred to in the Munziger bio is a one-paragraph mention of Gessner. Neues Deutschland had an interview with Gessner, but given that this was the party mouthpiece it is not exactly a reliable source. None of these is the kind of solid SIGCOV that I'd like to see for an article but there does at least seem to be biographical detail in them beyond the usual stats. FOARP (talk) 09:41, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Swimming at the 1991 European Aquatics Championships#200 m individual medley where his name is mentioned and he won the highest, silver medal. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 12:34, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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...Sings Modern Talking: Let's Talk About Love

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No evidence of this album passing WP:NALBUM, charting, or receiving critical responses. A copy of this mainspace version is at the draftspace, so this looks more like a copy-and-paste move. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 09:46, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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~~draftify~~ for now. Given that the previous release did chart at number 5 in Germany, this one might as well chart, but we don't know. Alternatively these 6 past and future releases could just have one article under the title "Magic". Bedivere (talk) 16:14, 18 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Now that it's reached number 5 in the German charts I think it's fine to keep Bedivere (talk) 15:42, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Bedivere Citation, please? Vanderwaalforces (talk) 15:56, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
https://www.offiziellecharts.de/charts/album Bedivere (talk) 16:11, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect - Redirect with history to Thomas Anders, but do not delete. --Jax 0677 (talk) 22:56, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Jax 0677 It now passes WP:NALBUM as it charted at #5 in the German charts. Bedivere (talk) 00:44, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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